Happiness is on a mission

[happiness]

  Yeah, the double standard goes both ways. But I've heard some guys compare the vibrators to the dolls. I'm sorry, but a hard little plastic, vibrating object, cannot be compared to a doll that looks like a drop dead gorgeous human being.  The vibrators that women use can be compared to the fleshlights that men use. So, I believe the only thing that equals a female doll, is a male doll.  Call me pigheaded, but I believe in equality between men and women. 

[Advanced]

Happiness, that comparison has allot to do with male psychology vs female. Let me put it simply, as a male a naked female form is usually enough to get it on. For most females not taking the trash out enough times(random example: the severeness of the perceived insult against the woman may vary as their triggers, what upsets them, can be as unique as the woman in question) will make her unattracted to her man.

Or to put this whole thing very simply in my experience, most guys are visual, whereas most women attraction is all in their head. So yes a doll is to a guy, what a dildo is to a girl.  Romance novels vs porn as a blunt example.

[Bronwen]

I was actually speaking more of the vibration and size than anything else. The size and aggressive motion of the toys could never be matched by the average guy, just like the physical perfection of the dolls cant be matched by the average woman. For those with fundamental insecurities, these are reasons that dolls can be perceived as a threat. I have known men who are threatened by the very large dildos too...

[happiness]

Advanced, I agree with you in that men are visually stimulated, and women need more than that to be turned on. How does that make a dildo or vibrator equal to a doll?
And Bronwen, perhaps some men are threatened of the vibrators and dildos. I just don't know any.    I have a drawer full of those things. Roust bought every one of them.
My point is, if she has dildos and vibrators, don't get upset at his fleshlight and pocket pussy; and if he has a doll, don't get upset at hers.

[roustabout]

     I think it is a little funny that Happiness is having trouble getting everyone to compare apples to apples. As you all know, High end doll are used and appreciated in many ways, while  other (toys) serve only a single purpose. Dildo's are hard to find cloths for, and just try to cuddle up to a vibrator.  I also think that photos of Ben Wa balls would quickly become repetitive.  

I would also point out that saying 'men are visual and women are mental' is to simplistic and limiting. It's only natural that women would want life size dolls.  After all, who do you think has been playing with dolls the longest. 

[Camp]

I just think it's cool that Stacy will have a boyfriend...

I can't wait to see those pics... 

[Z-Dr]

Way to wear the pants Roust.

I commend Hap for her perserverence and hope that it comes to fruition sooner than later.  I think there are pros and cons for both sizes of dolls.  I like to snuggle with a doll that is true to size and form but for play, smaller and lighter has it's advantages.  I think variety is the spice of life.  I would like to have male dolls in my collection but not enough to supercede adding females.   I think I would opt for full size for compatibility with most of my girls.  If only funding and space were not limiting factors...

[Advanced]

Roust, my point is  an apple to a woman may as well be an orange to a man. Thus there can be no static comparison. Just playing devil's advocate 
Also with guys generally a few items are used at a time you have your sleeve and favorite porn type, a doll combines both of these things. From my understanding of women(I'm a guy) they use their toy and their favorite porn type novel/imagination ect.. A doll for a good number of ladies wouldn't cut it as well as it would for most men.

[noquiexis]

     Happiness originally asked:

Am I the only one that would like to see a lighter male doll?

     If memory serves, Billy Joel, Paul Simon, and Scott Hamilton are all men of short stature. Maybe a short male doll will be in the works before long. The smaller size should be more managable and weigh less. The six-foot two quarterback might be sexy, but the same proportions in a smaller size would be easier for the ladies to wrangle. With computer-assisted body scanning, resizing the measurements should not be too difficult.

[happiness]

  This is why I love this forum and the people here!!!! When I get to hear others view points, then I get to learn something new myself. I appreciate every comment here!
Roust brought up a great point. Part of the fun of having a doll is the companionship, the playing dress up, giving the doll a personality, and taking pics. And of course, being part of a community of real people with shared interests. For me, as a woman, the doll adds far more to my imagination and sexual fantasies than a dildo or vibrator. Those are just objects to me, but the doll is something more. That is why I don't understand the comparison of dildos and vibrators to dolls.

Noq, thank you for bringing my thread back to the original topic!!! And for your support!!! I really want to see more people post, that would like to see a lighter male doll come to market. I'm watching a thread by a female on the doll forum. She's awaiting the delivery of her body B Real Doll; a 90-95 pound, 5'9 doll. I'm very happy and excited for her, because she is getting a doll that she really wants and her excitement shows in her posts. I'd like to know her opinions on the weight and maneuverability of her doll when he arrives. Women are just starting to find out about these dolls, and her review will be one of the first that I'll see.

You guys are awesome!!!!!!

[happiness]

Well LorileiXAlec has her new male doll from Abyss, and surprise, she can't move him. She's still really excited to have him. Before she ordered him, she envisioned the different ways she would interact with him. I wonder how many of those will come true for her, given the weight issue. How can she not be a little disappointed in a few weeks, when the newness wears off, and she has a doll she has to struggle with.
I wish her all the best..... maybe someone can develop a pulley system for our heavy dolls, one that can work with our doll stands.

[ourdoll1]

Roust brought up a great point. Part of the fun of having a doll is the companionship, the playing dress up, giving the doll a personality, and taking pics.

 Yup, in short, you get a chance to PLAY again 

  If a light male doll was available, I'd have to fight with the MRS over Dollie-money 

[happiness]

Lol!!! Roust and I are trying to share the doll fund. It's a continuous conversation about which doll is coming home next. We actually have two doll funds right now. One for the male Sinth, and one for the next female doll. We were going to order a Lilith next month, but now are considering a female Sinth. I told Roust to get whatever doll he wanted, and he seems frozen with indecision.     It's possible that I could get my male doll first.  But it will be April when I have all the funds. And I don't know when the first male Sinth
will be unveiled. If he's heavy, I'll have to wait. I want a doll that I can at least lift. Stacy weighs 87 pounds, and she is my max. I can lift her and carry her in a bear hug, but it's not easy. So... I'm hoping for a male doll that's not over 85 pounds. ( wishing fervently with fingers crossed ) 

[Ray Rentell]

95lb's ...... 

Oh I do hope she is not too disappointed, all that saving , anticipation and the long wait.
Did nobody advise her on the weight issues at the forum?
They must of warned her ...........

Still, she may well make a work around somehow and thoroughly enjoy his company, could this be a case for the Incredi stand I wonder?

Just a thought , are there no Japanese male dolls by people like 4woods, slightly smaller stature could be the answer.
Happiness's quest continues.

[roustabout]

     As of right now, the only male dolls currently on the market are from Abyss. I don't count Nax from first Android, as he is both heavier and more expensive. All of the current male bodies are heavy and seem to be made with male purchasers in mind.
    One thing I have noticed is that people who don't have any experience with dolls tend to want and demand larger and taller dolls, while people who have dolls demand lighter dolls that are easier to manage. I would also point out that a doll stand can add anywhere from 2 to 6 inches to the dolls height, depending on the design.
In the long run, people will be happier with lighter dolls that they can do more with.